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      A friend of mine has the 1100d, I would recommend against it to be honest. It isn't a bad camera, but it simply isn't that special.
      One of the real differences you will notice between them is size and weight, and you can only make your mind up about them by going into a local shop and asking to use them. Most camera stores will stock these models and expect people to try them.
      I prefer a heavier camera as it feels stronger and more durable in my hands, however some might prefer the smaller and lighter camera for the flexibility it offers.

      In my opinion the best value wide angle lens on a crop body is the Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM. Good quality, but a lot cheaper than the Canon model.
      However, don't rush to get it as the kit lens with any of the bodies will meet your immediate needs.


      I would highly recommend using www.camerapricebuster.co.uk for the latest deals this side of the pond Steamboat - you can track prices over time on there to see if the latest offers are really good or not. Ironically the prices fluctuate up and down on an almost daily basis in the specialist camera stores.
      1 - Howard Johnson Maingate East - Kissimmee - Oct 93
      2 & 3 - Econolodge Hawaiian - Kissimmee - July 97 & July 99!
      4 & 5 - All Star Sports - Sept 2003 & Sept/Oct 04
      6 - Coronado Springs - Sept 06
      7 & 10 - Old Key West - Dec 08 & May 11
      8 & 11 - Newport Bay Club Paris - Oct 09 & Jul 11
      9 - Disneyland Hotel California - June 10
      12 - Walt Disney Family Museum - Nov 12

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      Quote Originally Posted by Pinoke76 View Post
      A friend of mine has the 1100d, I would recommend against it to be honest. It isn't a bad camera, but it simply isn't that special.
      One of the real differences you will notice between them is size and weight, and you can only make your mind up about them by going into a local shop and asking to use them. Most camera stores will stock these models and expect people to try them.
      I prefer a heavier camera as it feels stronger and more durable in my hands, however some might prefer the smaller and lighter camera for the flexibility it offers.

      In my opinion the best value wide angle lens on a crop body is the Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM. Good quality, but a lot cheaper than the Canon model.
      However, don't rush to get it as the kit lens with any of the bodies will meet your immediate needs.


      I would highly recommend using www.camerapricebuster.co.uk for the latest deals this side of the pond Steamboat - you can track prices over time on there to see if the latest offers are really good or not. Ironically the prices fluctuate up and down on an almost daily basis in the specialist camera stores.
      I have been looking at the non-Canon lenses because my uncle (and several others) suggested them. I only want the Canon camera because obviously the lenses come to fit different brands of cameras, and all my uncle's and my Dad's fit Canon cameras.

      I think the 1100d is out as nobody here thinks it's great (although it explains why it's so much more inexpensive).

      As for the whole fisheye question. I like the distortion on the lens which is why I would like a full frame Fisheye. However if I could get away with an adapter on a wide angle lens I would have went with that, as it would technically be 2 lenses in 1.

      New Question: Are the 18-55MM and 18-135MM lens that come with the Canons both kit lenses? If not would Paula's Sigma 18-250MM might be a buyer. I think the photographer in work uses that or similar sized Sigma on his camera (also a Canon).

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      Supreme Cast Member Pinoke76's Avatar
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      I personally don't buy camera kits, I would always buy a camera only and then buy the lens separate.
      It just makes it easier to deal with issues if either part goes bad.

      It does appear that those are the kit lenses, they are solid performers for the price you pay for them.
      The Sigma 18-250 is more useful though as it covers more range, but it costs more? It would certainly be an awesome starter lens

      I have the Canon 8-15mm fisheye, it is great for a few hours/days of fun but was one of the last lenses I added to my collection as it really doesn't get used that often. (my little pic was taken with the full circular view of a Pinoke canvas)
      I can't remember ever thinking I had missed a shot because I had forgotten to take that lens with me though
      1 - Howard Johnson Maingate East - Kissimmee - Oct 93
      2 & 3 - Econolodge Hawaiian - Kissimmee - July 97 & July 99!
      4 & 5 - All Star Sports - Sept 2003 & Sept/Oct 04
      6 - Coronado Springs - Sept 06
      7 & 10 - Old Key West - Dec 08 & May 11
      8 & 11 - Newport Bay Club Paris - Oct 09 & Jul 11
      9 - Disneyland Hotel California - June 10
      12 - Walt Disney Family Museum - Nov 12

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      Got my 600D yesterday. Playing around with it, there's a fisheye effect on the creative filter settings if you didn't want to get the separate lens straight away. Can't wait to get out and give it a test run!
      Paula



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      Dear fellow camera buffs. I have just read this thread and have a headache trying to follow alone since I am sure this is not written in English since I understood only one forth of it :). I just use cameras with PHD buttons! (Press Here Dummy!). Those of you who have read my half written trip report with photos attached now understand why my pictures look the way they do. It is on my to do list to educate myself and upgrade my photo talents or lack thereof!!!! ;)

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      Just thought of another question today.

      Can anyone recommend good photo editing tools? I'm not sure I want to pay 600 for Photoshop!

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      Photoshop elements. Runs around $70 usd
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      Quote Originally Posted by Steamboat Willie View Post
      Just thought of another question today.

      Can anyone recommend good photo editing tools? I'm not sure I want to pay 600 for Photoshop!

      Agree with SM, elements is the best for casual users. It is made by Adobe, the same as the main Photoshop product and has a lot of similar features (although obviously not as extensive as it is 10% of the price :) )
      It is easy to use and has more than enough features to warrant the 60 price tag.
      1 - Howard Johnson Maingate East - Kissimmee - Oct 93
      2 & 3 - Econolodge Hawaiian - Kissimmee - July 97 & July 99!
      4 & 5 - All Star Sports - Sept 2003 & Sept/Oct 04
      6 - Coronado Springs - Sept 06
      7 & 10 - Old Key West - Dec 08 & May 11
      8 & 11 - Newport Bay Club Paris - Oct 09 & Jul 11
      9 - Disneyland Hotel California - June 10
      12 - Walt Disney Family Museum - Nov 12

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      Well i got my DSLR today. I went with a Canon 600D and I got a Tamron SP AF 17-50 lens to go with it.

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