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Some (Many) Camera Questions for a New DSLR User

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Steamboat Willie, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. Steamboat Willie

    Steamboat Willie New Member

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    With all the family events coming up in the next few years including about 6 weddings and our Honeymoon I'm planning to get a DSLR camera. After our last visit, I was disappointed by how few good pictures we had despite having over 700.

    I'm planning on getting a Canon as that's what my dad and uncle use, so we'll be able to borrow lenses off each other.

    The Cameras I am considering are the 550D or 600D (Rebel T2i and T3i) as they are the standard entry level cameras. However I noticed there's a cheaper range called the 1100D (Rebel T3) and there's also the mid range 60D.

    I'm been comparing the 4 cameras using the various comparison charts on websites such as the main Canon site, but I'm still not sure what the cheaper cameras can't do.

    So my first question is what advantages are there to buying the higher range cameras other than the extra megapixels, and the LCD screens that can be moved?

    Questions two and three are about wide angle lenses and fisheye lenses. The cameras tend to come with either an 18-55 or 18-135 lens. I know wide angle lens tend to be below 35, so does this mean that I can get wide angle shots with these lenses?

    Also I see that you can get fisheye adapters for wide angle lenses. Can you get adapters that allow you to take full frame shots, are all adapters circular shots only?

    There will be more questions, but at the moment I can't think of any :hehe:
     
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    Vikki Moderator

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    I can answer the movable screen one. Mine has one and it's brilliant! I can lift it really high, or drop it down low and tilt the screen so I can see what's going on. I'd definately recommend having one if you had the option :yes:
     
  3. SportsMickey

    SportsMickey A walking SportsCenter

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    Ignore the T3. Heck it has lower specs than my T1i.

    If you have never really used a Dslr I would go with something in the Rebel line. If you can get a good deal on the T2i I would go that direction. However, if there isn't much difference in price go T3i. Brian got that body for Christmas and loves it
     
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    That is my Mother's day gift, arriving tomorrow. I asked for a new lens and Al upgraded my camera too. :D
     
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    SportsMickey A walking SportsCenter

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    Brian went from the Xti to the T3i and it's a huge difference. There is less difference between my T1i and the T3i
     
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    Ok, so I wrote a nice post last night at 10:30 and my computer crashed it and here I am again.

    I am new here but have lurked a while, I saw this post and thought that I could help since I am in the camera business. So t3 vs T3i The t3i is nice because it has the higher MP and the movable screen. That helps tremendously if you are trying to shoot over people in your way or trying to get eye level with the dog (without laying on the ground.)
    the screen is a little bigger but not a huge amount.

    I would go with a lens that fits most of everything, a 18-200 or a 18-270 from a aftermarket would be a good lens to most of everything. However they are heavy!!! The kit 18-55 is ok. I call it the "in the house lens" It is ok, but anything other then across the room you will need another lens. You were asking about fish eye kits, stay away from them, a fish eye lens cost several hundred dollars, a 25.00 kit is not going to give you the good effect. If you are really looking for a good wide angle lens you might want to look into a tamron 10-24 or tonika 12-24 both about 500 dollars.

    But the best lens to look into would be the canon 50mm 1.8. It is 125 and it is just a great solid lens.

    I know I had more for this post, but with the dogs and kid running around I can not think of it. When I do I will post.
     
  7. SportsMickey

    SportsMickey A walking SportsCenter

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    It is so rare for me to actually use the kit lens. I love my Tamron 28-75 f/2.8. It's a much better low light lens than the kit (can be at 2.8 though the whole zoom where the kit is 3.5-5.6 so if you zoom in, you need a decent light source)

    You were asking about wide vs. fish eye. They're two different lenses. Fish Eye has distortion on the ends. It's a cool look. Wide angle is just a wide, 18 generally meets that requirement.

    Basically a fish eye is a wide angle but a wide angle isn't always a fish eye
     
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    A fisheye will dramatically distort your pictures too. I have one, that I love, because I love the bend.

    I think SM gave the best idea for which body to get if you are new to DSLR. I have a Canon 50D, upgraded from the original Rebel. Canon's 1st digital camera. I basically out grew it.

    Feel the weight of the body, and the grips. Make sure you get something that is comfortable in your hands. Different bodies have different feels.

    I agree with everyone about the kit lenses as well. They are basically disposable lenses. Upgrade to something with at least an f2.8 for better low light pictures/faster pics. The 50mm that was suggested is a good one too. It's termed the 'nifty fifty'. My DH got me the 30mm (the dirty thirty) for Mother's Day last year. It runs, I think, about $300, but is an awesome lens. Gorgeous pictures!

    You can also rent different lenses before you purchase to see if you like them. I rented the fisheye, abt 4 times, before purchasing. Once I took a rented lens to WDW even. I rented a wide angle to test out, before a trip to New Orleans. I wasn't crazy about it, but have seen some incredible shots with them.

    Tomorrow, when I'm on my computer I'll try to upload different pics from different lenses to give you a better idea of what the results can be.

    Sent from my ADR6330VW using Tapatalk
     
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    I left all my lenses out in FL thinking I wouldn't need them and i'm kicking myself now in case we fly off somewhere in Europe over Easter. :rolleyes: I've gone for the Sigma DC OS 18-250MM F3.5/6.3 as an all rounder to keep here. I have the 500D (T1i?) out in FL. I'll have to decide whether to switch bodies and bring that home next trip to upgrade too.
     
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    A friend of mine has the 1100d, I would recommend against it to be honest. It isn't a bad camera, but it simply isn't that special.
    One of the real differences you will notice between them is size and weight, and you can only make your mind up about them by going into a local shop and asking to use them. Most camera stores will stock these models and expect people to try them.
    I prefer a heavier camera as it feels stronger and more durable in my hands, however some might prefer the smaller and lighter camera for the flexibility it offers.

    In my opinion the best value wide angle lens on a crop body is the Sigma 10-20mm f/4-5.6 EX DC HSM. Good quality, but a lot cheaper than the Canon model.
    However, don't rush to get it as the kit lens with any of the bodies will meet your immediate needs.


    I would highly recommend using www.camerapricebuster.co.uk for the latest deals this side of the pond Steamboat - you can track prices over time on there to see if the latest offers are really good or not. Ironically the prices fluctuate up and down on an almost daily basis in the specialist camera stores.
     
  11. Steamboat Willie

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    I have been looking at the non-Canon lenses because my uncle (and several others) suggested them. I only want the Canon camera because obviously the lenses come to fit different brands of cameras, and all my uncle's and my Dad's fit Canon cameras.

    I think the 1100d is out as nobody here thinks it's great (although it explains why it's so much more inexpensive).

    As for the whole fisheye question. I like the distortion on the lens which is why I would like a full frame Fisheye. However if I could get away with an adapter on a wide angle lens I would have went with that, as it would technically be 2 lenses in 1.

    New Question: Are the 18-55MM and 18-135MM lens that come with the Canons both kit lenses? If not would Paula's Sigma 18-250MM might be a buyer. I think the photographer in work uses that or similar sized Sigma on his camera (also a Canon).
     
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    I personally don't buy camera kits, I would always buy a camera only and then buy the lens separate.
    It just makes it easier to deal with issues if either part goes bad.

    It does appear that those are the kit lenses, they are solid performers for the price you pay for them.
    The Sigma 18-250 is more useful though as it covers more range, but it costs more? It would certainly be an awesome starter lens :thumbs:

    I have the Canon 8-15mm fisheye, it is great for a few hours/days of fun but was one of the last lenses I added to my collection as it really doesn't get used that often. (my little pic was taken with the full circular view of a Pinoke canvas)
    I can't remember ever thinking I had missed a shot because I had forgotten to take that lens with me though :blush:
     
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    Got my 600D yesterday. Playing around with it, there's a fisheye effect on the creative filter settings if you didn't want to get the separate lens straight away. Can't wait to get out and give it a test run!
     
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    Dear fellow camera buffs. I have just read this thread and have a headache trying to follow alone since I am sure this is not written in English since I understood only one forth of it :). I just use cameras with PHD buttons! (Press Here Dummy!). Those of you who have read my half written trip report with photos attached now understand why my pictures look the way they do. It is on my to do list to educate myself and upgrade my photo talents or lack thereof!!!! ;)
     
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    Just thought of another question today.

    Can anyone recommend good photo editing tools? I'm not sure I want to pay £600 for Photoshop!
     
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    SportsMickey A walking SportsCenter

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    Photoshop elements. Runs around $70 usd
     
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    Agree with SM, elements is the best for casual users. It is made by Adobe, the same as the main Photoshop product and has a lot of similar features (although obviously not as extensive as it is 10% of the price :) )
    It is easy to use and has more than enough features to warrant the £60 price tag.
     
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    Well i got my DSLR today. I went with a Canon 600D and I got a Tamron SP AF 17-50 lens to go with it.
     
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    Great!!! Now start clicking away. I have a Canon 50D and Paula & SM have Canon's too. We can help with settings questions.

     
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    Alexa Happy HalloWishes!

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    I have the Nikon D3100 and it does the job. It's great for it's price range. I purchased mine for around $400 USD with the standard Nikon Nikkor 18-55mm VR stock lens. I recently purchased two telephoto lenses and I'm absolutely in love with them. I purchased the Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 D DL Macro Super and the Nikon DX AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 55-200mm f/4.0-5.6G VR ED-IF SWM (AF).
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